It seems as though the incrementalists are comparing notes again – and repeating the same old lies.
One thing the “trans-or-bust” crowd doesn’t seem to get is that whatever arguments they make about leaving trans workers behind also works in the opposite direction only with far more force.
Chris, until you and your incrementalism-rati are willing to honestly address this statement – but with ‘marriage or bust’ in the place of ‘trans or bust’ – do everyone, including yourselves, a big favor: STFU.
Pass the compromise ENDA:
- Millions of GLB Americans get historic workplace protections.
- Trans workers, who are much smaller in number, will remain partially protected by the long-standing Price Waterhouse precedent.
- Full “gender identity” protection will wait until XX date, unknown, when Congress is ready to protect transgender workers.
Chris, until you and your incrementalism-rati are willing to honestly address the actual differential between GLBs who have no protection now and Ts who have no protection now, do everyone, including yourselves, a big favor: STFU.
Or we follow the trans-or-bust route:
- Millions of GLB Americans are completely unprotected from workplace bias in 31 states.
- Trans workers, who are much smaller in number, will remain partially protected by the long-standing Price Waterhouse precedent.
- Full “gender identity” protection will wait until YY date, also unknown, when Congress is ready to protect transgender workers.
Chris, until you and your incrementalism-rati are willing to honestly address the fact that no version will pass and be signed until at least 2009 – and even then, assuming its Hilary, likely not until 2013 – STFU. (Its Chris’s unwillingness to deal with point that surprises me most; he is sickened by the prospect of President HRC, the de facto-annointed candidate of El Grupo HRC, even more than most trans people.)
No one even knows if there is much of a difference between XX date and YY date, although apparently everyone assumes that both Congress and LGBT groups will work harder to pass T rights sooner if GLB rights come along with them.
Sorry, Chris. Nice try. The assumption is – as has been borne out by the majority of states that enacted gay-only rights laws – that if a gay-only ENDA becomes law, Ts will NEVER be added.
It’s ridiculous to think that LGBT groups will show no interest in passing T protections after achieving LGB protections, considering more than 300 of these groups are already willing to forego GLB protections to win T protections.
Will you and your slithering ilk sign sworn statements saying that you will never, in any way shape or form, work to dissuade any of those organizations against making T the next item on the agenda following enactment of a gay-only ENDA?
Uh huh.
I didn’t think so.
As for Congress, if there is widespread resistance to transgender rights, how will tacking them on to GLB rights advance the ball? No one has made that case, instead focused on guilting GLB Americans into acting against their interest.
Guilting? What about the forcing Ts – not to mention all those GLBs whose need for civil rights laws massivly outweighs their need for gay marriage – to live with the results of the insanity of the push for gay marriage?
Wait a minute…
all those GLBs whose need for civil rights laws massivly outweighs their need for gay marriage
Ya know…I bet there are millions of them.
Millions more than believed pushing for gay marriage was a wise thing.
Did any of you in the incrementalism-rati demand that HRC or Lambda or NCLR poll its members on the wise-ness of that strategy?
I didn’t think so.
Sorry, Chris. We have reality. You lose.