H/T to Kathy for the title of this post. In all honesty, I can’t think of a better description for what’s been going on the comments section of a thread at Pam’s House Blah:
- What you call “gender identity,” I might call “sex stereotypes.”
- I am starting to think that gays and lesbians working on trans issues are signing their own death warrants.
- Instead of being a butch dyke, I’m now being told I should become a man.
- Gender identity legislation seeks to codify the idea that there are, in fact, gender-specific traits – that there are masculine traits and feminine traits. That is scary, and wrong.
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The cure for homosexuality used to be reparative (ha) therapy – change behaviour. That clearly didn’t work. So, now, change the body to make it (sexual behaviour/attractions) “not” gay.
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So why is it ok to label women as transphobic for not wanting people with penises in women-only space?
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I do want to eliminate irrational discrimination, but not at the expense of women.
But now, of course, we have yet to get to the money shot. In response to the statement, “Women also have good reason not to trust other women’s deicsions what is safe for women” (which itself had been a reponse to “women have good reason not to trust men’s decision making as to what is safe for women”), one finds this:
I am done responding to you, as only a misogynist would say what you actually typed in the first line above.
Wow…
A personal shot like that didn’t even get a warning.
Yet, my historical assessment of the reality of what transpired in Maryland in 2001:
It starts with the same strategy that Maryland’s gay elite put into play in 2001: They’re only trannies; they can wait at least 10 years
did get a warning. Oh, and lets not forget what prompted St. Autumn to give me the heave-ho:
But…
Forget about me.
Forget about the Luna-Tick.
Hell…
Forget about St. Autumn.
Just think about what Kathy summarized as “every transphobic trope of the last 40 years.”
Now think about why there was – and still is – a need for trans civil rights legislation in Maryland (and Massachusetts…and Connecticut…and New York…and New Hampshire…and Delaware.)

Nice to see that PHB is just as klassy and fair as ever.
*gag*
Granted, it’s only a troll, but an asshole one at that.
I love how you women-hating anonymous Internet people are in love with me! I’m flattered.
Yet another phrase that you keep using that you clearly don’t know (or, as is more likely the case, don’t care about) the meaning of.
A woman doesn’t know the meaning of the phrase women-hating? Yes, but this debate isn’t about silencing women. It’s very clear you are letting women speak from their own experiences and trusting that they actually know what being on the receiving end of hate is like.
Yes, what would I know about “woman hating,” with me being born female and living in this country for years. Oh, and dealing with schmucks like you.
TTFN Otto!
Say hi to Kyel Ellis for me.
Oh Cathy, always going on and on about your “womyn-born-womyn” status! Are you just trying to make us jealous? :p
Hmm … Inductive reasoning error – people disliking boysenberry ice cream does not equal disliking ice cream.
A polyp could claim to feel the same love as it receives similar attention.
I dunno. If my girlfriend had bought into your bullshit she’d still be miserable, suicidal, and trying to pretend to be a straight man.
Transition, the data shows, tends to liberate GLB people, 23% of trans people in a recent survey identifying as straight and 23% as gay/lesbian, and the rest a wonderful hodgepodge of every identified sexuality under the sun.
Why do you insist on forcing trans dykes back into the closet Cathy? Why must we pretend to be men? So that once we’ve become good little self-haters you’ll have someone wounded enough for you to pick on? I honestly don’t know why you hide trans women behind your straw men.
I try to rely on Hanlon’s razor, but the more willful the ignorance, the more likely that malice remains the explanation.
Naturalized citizens aren’t teh real ‘mericans.
And all transsexuals are born male –
The greatest advocates for any people are those who vilify them.
Loving homosexuals means telling them they’re sinners and will burn in hell.
We must burn down the village to save the village.
– hey – this is easy!
How about…
All lawyers with Hudson Cook, LLP….
Well, you know….
I hear she’s being tapped by the Gov. to head the Department of Human Sacrifices.
So – consumer credit is a nice way of saying they represent creditors and mortgage companies – like foreclosure work?
Is that a forged document in your pocket? Or are you just glad to see me?
Hi, since you mentioned Autumn. BTW, I am learning by her example.
http://stoptranssexualhate.blogspot.com/2011/04/oh-sandeenno-you-didnt.html
BTW, found this posting via transgriot. Thanks, Monica!
Yah – it makes me wonder what exactly the criteria is to get booted from PHB.
Back in January all I did was post – here – the result of two very simple google searches.
I ussed to like Autumn Sandeen then she publicly outed that lady to her church.
I think Autumn means well and she has fought for rights but when she gets mad she sees’ red and can’t think straight.
My sister gets like that. Makes her a royal bitch. I hate her but I still smile when she shows up to family diners and we talk with feigned respect.
Anyways….
Yes our supposed allies in the LGB can and have been our greatest enemies at times.
I am of two minds on the subject…
first I think that we should not be part of a sexual minority union. I am changing my sex, not a repressed sexual minority
second I am reminded of how small our numbers are. There just simply are not enough of us to change society. We need the LGB for the numbers. Also gay male pockets are deep when it comes to the public causes they suport.
The thing is to educate our supposed allies and sucessfully plead our case with them. Yes they should have come around by now and they haven’t, but we can not throw the baby out with the bath watter.
It does leave a bit of a sour taste in my mouth but I am willing to eat a pile of shit to see rights for the next generation become a reality.
Cynthia, I know someone else who ‘sees red and can’t think straight’ who actually got me banned from Susans.org.
http://stoptranssexualhate.blogspot.com/2011/05/faciast-transgender-agenda.html