The Bigotries of Certain Obnoxious Gay Men Coming Home to Roost?

On the ‘Only Nixon Could Go to Gay’ controversy, someone at The John’s site remarks:

[B]ased on reading all that she said, she certainly sounds bi- to me, only she resists using the word “bisexual” because, well, she seems not to like the word. Or something.

Or something?

I don’t know what Cynthia Nixon’s issue actually is, but…

I can’t imagine why anyone would worry about how identifying as bisexual might get them treated by Royal High Gay-Purity Mucketymucks, can you?

Bisexuals, who were only part-time gays, insisted that we add them too, so we did (not without some protest)

Or the ghosts of dead Gay Purity Mucketymucks?

[Y]ears ago, when I wrote something skeptical about bisexuality, I got three indignant replies from “bisexual” women—all of whom admitted that they were in relationships with men.

Over the years I’ve actually noticed a slightly higher higher level of hatred toward bisexuals among gays and lesbians than of hatred toward trans people; just as in the America-as-Rand-Paul-Would-Have-Us-Return-to, there actually were some people – though not enough to matter – who truly believed in both prongs of “separate but equal,” some of the inclusion-haters are truly not trans-haters per se but simply think that both are valid but simply are not connected.

But not enough to matter; the ones who do matter really do hate trans people.

You know it.

I know it.

They know it.

Ditto for bisexuals.

Yet, I still feel justified in saying that the hatred of trans people among gays and lesbians is a more serious issue than the hatred of bisexuals because, somehow, in spite of the rampant bi-phobia, “bisexuality” always ends up as part of the definitional parameters of civil rights laws (I guess Gay, Inc.-oids were never willing to take the chance that, with a “homosexuality or heterosexuality”-only definition of “sexual orientation,” proof of even a long-ago date with a member of the opposite sex would keep Gay, Inc.-oids from being protected in their six-figure jobs, eh?  We couldn’t have a member of the Elizabeth Birch class interrogated – as suspected transsexuals are interrogated about their birth designations and medical histories are whenever they find themselves in court about anything, much less what their sex status will be recognized as – as to whether or not her body has ever co-mingled with a man’s body even once if she was suing for redress against six-or-seven-fugure job discrimination in a jurisdiction that might happen to define “sexual orientation” as “only homosexuality or heterosexuality,” now could we?)


Its just another pet bigotry of gay purity crowd.

Whether that reality is why Cynthia Nixon is playing the word games she’s playing right now, I don’t know.

But a gay man who thinks “part-time gays” are worthy of derision – as part of a screed demonizing trans people no less – has no more standing to express shock or dismay about what she’s saying about herself than he does over how trans people have pushed back against not only his separate-but-unequal desires but also his sub-Fox-‘News’ willingness to completely make shit up (and subsequently justify making the shit up) in order to demonize trans people.

Or does he really just want to be a toaster?

10 Responses to The Bigotries of Certain Obnoxious Gay Men Coming Home to Roost?

  1. Sweet Jesus, Katrina, I have got to stop following your accursed links!

    Hell, we could pass the legislative equivalent of “Four Minutes, Thirty-Three Seconds,” the famous avant-garde musical composition that contains no notes and is nothing but silence, and it would still mark the beginning of the end of our long struggle for equality. I’m not joking. We could pass a bill titled “Gay Civil Rights Law” that contained no language whatsoever. The fact that the United States Congress finally passed legislation affirming gay and lesbian† Americans as a legitimate civil rights community, as a protected class of American citizens rather than a group of mentally disturbed pedophiles, would empower our community, demoralize our opposition, and forever place us among the ranks of the great civil rights communities of the past and present.“How did the T get in LGBT?” – John Aravois (italics mine)

    It may be the air, it may be the water, or it may just be the culture of arrogance that sucks the reality out of the environs of Washington, D.C., but for me, the notion that passing a content-free “law” accomplishes anything except padding out a few resumes typifies the strained relationship with reality that seems to characterize “Beltway Consciousness”.

    – bonzie anne

    † Sorry, BT’s, to exclude you from the aforementioned “Empty Rights Act of 2007 for Gays and Lesbians”, but your time, too, shall come, for Empty Rights with your very own imprimatur!


  2. Kathy says:

    Artificial life form Brother Cavil says:

    “She said she “chose” to be gay. It means through the power of her mind she willfully turned herself from straight to gay. Right, and through the power of my mind I can turn myself into a toaster. (And please don’t tell me otherwise, because you’d be violating my right to define my own sexuality as I wish.)”

    For shame…”Number Six and Helo have both expressed that they consider “Toaster” to be an offensive racial epithet”. You might benefit from attending a Cylon consciousness raising group.

  3. "Vic" says:

    You wish that there was some huge rift b/t gays and bisexuals. There is none. Gays welcome bisexuals and their inclusion in LGB is noncontroversial b/c they are defined as bisexuals by their sexual orientation. Every gay civil rights law in every state that has one covers bisexuals and that has never been an issue.

    You want there to be a big gay vs. bi split b/c you desperately want to hide the fact that it is the T that has no place in LGBT. The more you can muddle the situation, the easier to hide the embarrassing truth that 99% of the internal fighting arises out of the forced marriage of LGB and T.

    BTW, it is a good thing that Ron Moore doesn’t know that you are a fan of BSG. Your deranged hate would make him lose his lunch.

    • Katrina Rose says:

      And if “sexual orientation” included “troll,” you’d be covered.

      Have a nice day Cathy!

    • Kathleen says:

      “I don’t pull out the “bisexual” word because nobody likes the bisexuals. Everybody likes to dump on the bisexuals,” she said.

      Actress’ claim to be gay by choice riles activists
      01/28/2012 5:16 AM
      The Associated Press

      SAN FRANCISCO – Cynthia Nixon learned the hard way this week that when it comes to gay civil rights, the personal is always political.

      Frowny face – I has deranged hate for pointing out deranged hate.

      Oh Noes!

      • Katrina Rose says:

        Oh, now you’ve done it…

        Now Vic, er,,,, Cathy, er…, John, er…, Elizabeth, or whoever he/she/it is will have to sue you for violating the “Gays Have the Absolute Right to Never Have Any Bullshit That They Say Empirically Proven to be, Well, Bullshit Act of 1980.”

    • shaed says:

      Well, *you’ve* never been on a lesbian website. The biphobic assholes and the transphobic asshole tend to be the same people.

  4. Kathleen says:

    Not to worry, I keep the firm of Hutz, Chiles & Brennan on reatainer through S-Mart pre-paid legal.

  5. friday jones says:

    When you’re looking for incompetent legal representation, shop smart — Shop S Mart!

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